Which is possibly a bit harsh.
Possibly.
Possibly …
I really don’t know if I will or won’t be.
But I do know that I’ve just watched what— to me — is a riveting piece of TV.
One that didn’t involve tentacles, or aliens, I should add.
Well …
That actually all depends on what you think of a certain former Labour PM.
I’m talking, here, about Britain’s former Prime Minister, Tony Blair, of course, and I’m starting to think that I’ve — possibly — misjudged him.
And I’m using the word ‘possibly’ with some heavy emphasise, there … !!
Hmmm …
Let me try and sum up 21st century history, here, as I understand it: and I’m happy to have corrections put to me, by the way … !
But start by telling you that BBC2 have, tonight, shown an interview conducted by Andrew Marr, with Tony Blair.
Who, incidentally, has a volume of his autobiography of his years in Parliament released today, called simply A Journey.
Which has nothing to do with the timing of the interview, obviously. (Say that to yourself with as heavy an ironic tone as you want …)
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I’m burbling, aren’t I?
I am: I’ve got to admit that not only have I watched, I’ve also recorded it, with the intention of putting a clip or two, here on Nik Nak’s Old Peculiar.
And also got it on, again.
Just so I know what I’m talking about … !!
Now, I’ve got to admit, I’ve tried to watch this interview this as few preconceptions as possible, to try an be fair to Tony Blair.
And, for the most part … ?
I’ve come away feeling that I’ve seen an interview with a politician of conviction.
Who, in office, tried to do his best by the population he’d been elected by.
But … ?
You knew there be a ‘but’, didn’t you … ?
But I think that I’m still unconvinced by one thing …
Now don’t forget, I generally quite liked the guy. Whilst being very aware that Blair is and was also — as he’s admitted in the book he’s released, today — a very manipulative one.
Certainly one who was — and is — a very good public speaker: possibly the best the UK’s seen in No 10 since Margaret Thatcher was in office.
One that’s possibly the most Machiavellian, as well.
At any rate, he was one that both was very watchable, and had me convinced he was the slimiest snake oil salesman going.
But one who put forwards ideas I liked and ideas I didn’t like.
I’ve just got to the bit where he’s explaining about how central government targets were good: and I can’t see myself disagreeing with that.
After all, we all like the idea of how well local services are doing.
But I do disagree about the Freedom of Information act he helped put through: he’s been kicking himself, ever since.
I’m thinking he might be kicking himself: I’m thinking that level of openness in government’s a good thing.
But the one thing that I alway felt very strongly about?
Iraq.
Dear lord, the Iraq situation …
Now I don’t know about you, but I always felt that, in joining with our US allies in invading Afghanistan, we had a certain amount of justification for invading.
9/11.
But Iraq … ?
That whole Weapons-of-Mass-Destruction thing … ?
I still find it very unconvincing.
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He might.
I don’t.
So I think that that invasion, whatever objective good Mr Blair argues it may have done? In removing Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti?
Wasn’t done in my name.
At least, not on the evidence Tony Blair put forward.
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You are not alone. I knew the entire Iraq, "Weapons of Mass Destruction" canard was a lie. The evidence was there all along. I read it. Inspectors said it until they were silenced. The media was too timid and intimidated to report it widely. No less, loudly. The 9/11 furor made it unpatriotic to say much, if anything. In the U.S., Bush's Administration made it essentially a federal crime to speak out. People were arrested and investigated for speaking out. I don't know what it was like in the British media.
Bush sucked. And Blair got sucked in by Bush, so he sucked, too.
Well …
There was one heck of a mixed reaction from both the media and the public on that: I don’t think that sort of action would’ve worked, because the media would’ve got very snotty about not being able to report things, to say the least..
And many in the media were the first to point out that the 7/7 bombers claimed to have done what they did, because of our involvement with Iraq.
Now, Blair did some objective good, by heading the government that could honestly helped forward both peace in Northern Ireland, and with things like the Sure Start (domestic) policy.
But when we remember that many called Tony Blair “Bush’s Poodle” … ?
Well …
Did anyone care to watch the movie "Green Zone" yet?
Not as yet, Ruhani: but, in view of this … ?
I might just suggest it to the movie night gang, to see what sort of interest I get …
Fascinating to read through Wikipedia’s potted — and very relevent — plot …
I agree with you, in part. I don't want to comment too much on the book as I've not read it. As for the interview - I'll go for the alien theory (joke). He still looked a worried man to me. My issue mainly tho is to do with his timing - on the day the ballot papers are issued for labour leader. Still that's probably more down to those around him. But it's still a slimey move.
I mostly agree with Kaiju. Only caveat - I think Blair is kind of cute. With a lovely British accent. So I find myself wanting to believe in him, really. But I think he didn't ask enough questions at the start and decided to believe that Bush was telling the truth. Big flaw.
Okay. Granted the British media is far more free than the US cousins. The media here used to do its job. Sometime in 1994, it seemed to stop. By 1997, it was fully in the bag for the conservatives and corporate interest (which means, the conservatives). During the Bush years, I got a major portion of my information *about the United States politics and policy* from the British media. That especially goes for the WMD allegations. Strike that. They were outright lies.
That brings to mind, if the British media had it right, why on earth did Britain go along with the Iraq War? Because Blair, aka "Bush's Poodle", was such a good salesman?
Hm.
Alexandra, I wanted Blair to be right, too. Pretty much for the same reasons. Har! But in the end, he sucked, too.
Basically, @Kaiju … ?
I’m pretty much grate that while British media is generally agreed to some of the most vicious, it’s also fairly independent.
And also extremely vicious.
And Britain as a whole … ?
Well …
The Iraq War was one of the most divisive political events in recent history.
And did generate a lot of protest: not as much as the Foxhunting ban, but certainly quite a lot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imaiB377o8Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrQMKQgG_SQ
Not as much protest as for the Foxhunting Ban?
Oy.
But still, that is more than the protests here Stateside.
We haven't seen any protests here until the moronic teabaggers were stirred up by the rabid right talk radio jocks. It's unimaginable. The United States of America is about to be lead by people with marginal educations, less than marginal intelligence, and some who are demonstrably emotionally disturbed.
We Merikuns used to want the best and the brightest in the leadership positions. Now the US voters want candidates "just like me" in those positions. It's like voting the local gardeners and grocery clerks into office to run the biggest and most powerful country in the world. These people have actually demonized anyone with an education from the top universities. Best to be a college dropout or manage to eke out a bachelor degree by attending six sub-par colleges, including one correspondence school.
It's madness! Over here, we're living in Bizarro World.
Hang on, Kaiju, Bill Gates was a college drop-out.
OK, point taken* …
But that I can’t speak for: although part of the American dream — speaking as an outsider, here — always struck me as the simple fact that anyone has the chance — in theory — to lead the country.
Unlike the UK, where we, as subjects of Her Majesty, are lead by various shades of Old Boy Network. (Red or blue, you place you vote … and whinge about how the wrong guys got in. All I can do is give you a quote from the original Patrick McGoohan version of The Prisoner, when in episode 2, No. @ says something along the lines of “Even its best friends agree democracy isn’t perfect”)
* Sorry, rabid MacBoi … !
Yup. The American Dream is that everyone can make it to the top. The Dream contract doesn't mean that you don't have to prepare, become educated, acquire the necessary experiences to reach the top, however.
We have this woman-who-is-an-idiot who believes she is qualified to be the Leader of Western World because she's a "Mama Grizzly", "Soccer Mom". And people are eating that crap up. The same woman-who-is-an-idiot thinks she can see Russia from her backyard, dinosaurs roamed the earth with Adam and Eve, is a staunch bigot/racist, and has no understanding of our own Constitution.
There's the American Dream for ya...in Bizzaro World!
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